i_amthecosmos: (Gerard Victorian Gothic)
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Nice. Real nice.

I have never friended or been friended by this person, even when we were popslashers together. I'm suddenly very glad for that.

I always thought that people who claimed persecution for being bandslashers were protesting a bit much. I mean, all my main fandoms have looked batshit insane from the outside-first popslash, then Hanson. Even when I get involved in a media fandom, it's weird-Boy Meets World, Big Wolf on Campus.

So this isn't the most persecuted fandom, but it might make the top ten.
A lot of people dropped my ass like a hot tear gas canister at a police riot when I started getting heavily into MCR fandom. It took me a while to notice, but they did. And by the way, I've done the math-I average about five bandom related posts per twenty on my main page. That's a fourth, which I don't find excessive.

Does this kind of thing happen to any other fandoms? Well, Harry Potter has always been a fine source of wank, so maybe. But nobody ever seems to go "Oh hai, you're posting too much about Stargate, lolz filtered!"

I'm sorry if I don't pick "cool" fandoms. I never have. *NSync slash, we should all remember, was not a way to get fandom status at first. At all. I cannot generate much interest in the cool kid fandoms like SPN or Stargate Atlantis. I have nothing against them, they are good for fandom. And you know what? MCR are good for fandom as well.

I am not friends locking this one! I'm mad as hell and I want everyone to see it!

Date: 2007-09-27 06:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clumsygyrl.livejournal.com
ilu. that is all.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
I, man. I'm actually angry! I've been so calm and chill (probably due to overmedication) for most of the week, and now I'm like "Amanda SMASH!"

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Date: 2007-09-27 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sorchar.livejournal.com
See, you're not just not cool. You're evil and apparently creepy and NAMBLA-loving. Also exploiting the gay for your own purposes. Didn't you know all that already?

Date: 2007-09-27 06:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Oh yeah! That's right. I think I misplaced my Evil Bandslasher introduction pamphlet along with my car insurance information.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintawesome.livejournal.com
I think what annoyed me about this was her announcing it. If you're gonna filter bandom people, just filter them, don't make people beg to stay on your friendslist so you can inflate your ego. Or better yet, defriend them if they offend you so much.

...she and I are gonna be at Wincon together. I think I'll just her a wide berth, because me + booze + her would probably equal drunken shouting, and I don't want that.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Oooh, cute icon. Yeah, that whole poll was designed to make bandom people feel shitty and for her to feel all powerful. At least that's how it look from this end.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenofhell.livejournal.com
I have no idea why bandom seems to be the #1 irritant right now for a lot of people--because we're so squeeful? Because our canon never stops, so there's not a hiatus like in a lot of fandoms? Because we post a lot of picspams? I don't know, but geez, there's a lot of anger at bandom.

I honestly didn't see anyone in bandom saying, "oh, we are so oppressed," until people started saying, "Bandom sucks and is full of loser teenies and I HATE IT SO MUCH and shut the fuck up about Ryan Ross's stupid face, all of you suck and I don't want to hear it." (Or alternately, saying, "I'm defriending all bandom people/I'm filtering until the CRAZY BANDOM PEOPLE shut the fuck up!") Then people, quite reasonably started saying, "Um, hey, I like bandom and I'm on your flist, so what's up with that?" And then the original posters went, "God, I don't even care about your stupid bandom, do whatever you want. Why are you bandom people SO DEFENSIVE," which, gee, I wonder. (Example: this (http://winterlive.livejournal.com/388477.html?thread=10281597#t10281597), among others in that post.)

Honestly, when I see someone mention not being a fan of bandom, just in passing, in a post? I'm cool with it. It's not their thing and that's fine. It's when I click on the comments and see people lining up to go, "God, me too! I can't wait til my flist gets less stupid," and it just turns into a venting session for people who hate bandom, I'm like, "Gee, why would anyone take this the wrong way? All they're saying is that we're stupid crazy assholes and they want us to shut up and the things we love so manufactured that all the smart people (aka, those who hate bandom) can see through it and we're just poor deluded fangirls." No WONDER bandom is defensive, dude. No wonder.

/end rant. probably. I could say something about phaballa, too, but I'm just rolling my eyes because after talking to her in another post I'm halfway convinced that she's wanky on purpose.

Date: 2007-09-27 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I don't really understand it. I kind of agreed with [livejournal.com profile] apetslife when she said that the early days of popslash was much worse. She's right. But the anti-bandom thing is getting vicious, and this time it's not because it's RPS. That would at least be a arguement we're familar with. This isn't even an arguement, it's just "you suck".

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Date: 2007-09-27 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lucylooo.livejournal.com
Ahahaha, the only time I've seen something similar happen before? Was a bandom person complaining that everyone was posting about "Deathly Hollows" - on the weekend it was released.

Yeah, that was just mostly tacky though. And hilarious.

Date: 2007-09-27 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
I mean, I'm not an obnoxious bandom sort, am I? You've known me for years, do I offend? I realize she's being a passive-agressive nutball, but it does make me wonder.

The Deathly Hallows thing is hilarious. Some people.

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Date: 2007-09-27 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] suzycat.livejournal.com
The words "so" and "what" spring to mind. Heaps of my flisties like Harry Potter. Not even ironically or anything. They all fell madly in love with it and poof! there they were, buying wands and dressing up in school uniforms and getting "sorted". And they're all into SPN and Heroes and what have you, and I just do not squee about those things. But, whatevs. If they are squeeing a lot I just browse past, if I can't really be bothered looking at their squee. I still like to read their other posts! And sometimes I can even enjoy their posts about fandoms and bandoms I have no interest in.

Date: 2007-09-27 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I politely let my SGA people squee themselves silly, because I respect their fandom. I don't patricipate in it, but I consider it a good one. I admit I'm fairly limited in my fandom choices-I like RPS, and I don't like to slash actors most of the time. What does that leave? Musicians! So that's what I do.

I don't understand why some people can't at least show us the same courtesy.

Date: 2007-09-27 07:21 am (UTC)
ext_65212: (pete/patrick otp beffies by numbstruck)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_mydecember_/
Ugh, people SUCK. I'm grateful that my f-list is almost all bandom people, and the few that aren't, apparently know how to scroll past things that don't interest them. Crazy, I know.

Date: 2007-09-27 07:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
I have a diverse friendslist, and it was more diverse before various non-bandom people decided to gently give me the boot. I didn't mind much, figured it was their perogative and kept on truckin'. Nobody made a big drama poll saying they were gonna filter me for the crime of being into Gerard Way and his Stagegay.

Btw, that's an awesome icon.

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Date: 2007-09-27 07:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drunkoffthestars
Thanks for the pointing! I was seeing all these livid posts, and was all ...weh? *tucks self back in asshole-free corner*

Date: 2007-09-27 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
You know how hard it is for me to get really mad about a fandom related issue! But I've seen too much of this kind of bullshit lately and this was the last straw.

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Date: 2007-09-27 08:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missmollyetc.livejournal.com
You know, I think I'm basically in the same boat as you are with this whole...::waves hands:: This whole bizarre, bewildering lashing out that seems to be taking place. It's like, I've been in fandom for literally over a decade (...wowza.), I was a slasher before the het detente, and in popslash at the beginning, and I've written incest before everyone got blindsided by SPN and the 'something is going on' meter went off the scale, so I've been unpopular before. I've just never been made to feel unwelcome in my own circle of fandom before. It's rather hurtful.

Date: 2007-09-27 08:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
*nods* Yeah. I do remember when I got into popslash being very embarressed for the first few months, because it was pop music. (The fact that it was rps never bothered me: I had written drawerfic for my favorite band years before I got on the internet.) MCR were a step back to my rocker roots. In fact, they work perfectly for me as a band and a fandom-they're both equally.

I guess everyone's taking a pathological hatred of Pete Wentz out on us. I mean, I never heard about a bandom person breaking into a popslasher's house and screwing their dog, did you? Because that's how some people are reacting, I swear.

(I have got to get some Panic! icons.)

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Date: 2007-09-27 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heraliceeyes.livejournal.com
I still read you, just so you know - I read everyone, even though I suck at the not-lurking thing. I have zero interest in bandslash but it's nothing personal, it's just that I'm only interested in maybe three current bands, and don't hate me, but I think all the guys are kinda unattractive except for William Beckett. But I've never filtered anyone out because I think it's lame and dishonest. I like you, so I read you even though some of your posts may not interest me. You're still a cool person. :)

Date: 2007-09-27 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Aw, thanks.

I'm kind of sorry that my Hanson interest withered on the vine the way it did. That was bizarre.

William Beckett is crazy attractive. He would work in any era of rock-80's hair metal, 70's hard rock, maybe even 60's garage rock. 90's grunge. Someone needs to timeslip him back to the 70's so he can screw David Bowie, forreals. I would read that.

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Date: 2007-09-27 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] magdalyna.livejournal.com
Our choices for Pete and "creepy" and "normal NAMBLA loving guy".

Whatever.

Has anything ever been this hostile before? I'm new to American fandoms.

Date: 2007-09-27 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
The early days of popslash were worse. People were writing it under different names than they normally did, to spare themselves personal attack. Not only was it bubblegum pop, but it was real person slash. At the time, that was a huge wank (still is for some people).

But what beats the shit out of me, is that this person was a popslasher, and should know better! Just because it isn't your type of pop...

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Date: 2007-09-27 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starsprinkles.livejournal.com
A lot of my friends list has gotten into bandom (among other fandoms) and it doesn't interest me. So I read the parts of their posts that do interest me and I scroll past the parts that don't. It's really not that hard..?

Not sure why this person (who I don't know) feels she has to make a poll about it so everyone knows she's filtering people out based on certain things. It seems like she is trying to basically make certain people feel guilty for their fandoms for no good reason.

Date: 2007-09-27 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
She's basically declared war on bandom. She was responsible for the "stage gay" wank, where she said that displays of male kissing between two MCR members who have wives/fiancees offended her as a gay person. As it happens, MCR's given reason for the onstage kissing/groping was to spite homophobes. So I don't have a problem with this.

I just don't get it. I like musician fandoms, and I love MCR as a band. so I've been trying not to take the slams against them personally, but it's getting out of hand.

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Date: 2007-09-27 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azrielen.livejournal.com
Are we really so undesirable? Wow I honestly had no idea. Those boys in make-up really cause a fucking stir.

I wonder if I'm like, bottom of the hypothetical barrel because I slash ... *gasp!* ... THE USED!

LOL whatever. Her NAMBLA comment kind of offended me, tho. No clue why, I make the pedo!Pete jokes too, but it just hit me the wrong way given the tone of the post.

Date: 2007-09-27 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quiet000001.livejournal.com
There is totally not enough good The Used fic out there. (Or it's hiding from me. Where is the Bert/Quinn hiding?)

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Date: 2007-09-27 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil.livejournal.com
SPN? Super Perverse Ninjas?

I'm so out of touch with media fandoms overall that I'm awash in a sea of unidentifiable acronyms.

Date: 2007-09-27 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Supernatural, the tv show about the two impossibly good looking brothers traveling the county in an Impala to fight demons. I've only seen about two eps, but they were good.

Date: 2007-09-27 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] carolinecrane.livejournal.com
I could give a good goddamn about bandslash, but anyone who squees with me over Jarod/Griff is okay in my book : ) You know, I was talking to one of my young-ish friends (read: under 25) about her fascination with bandslash, and I mentioned you as one of the bandslashers on my flist and she's all, "Oh, she's, like, an actual *grown-up*". And I was like, "Dude, she's not that much older than me." Which just cracked me up, because we are *old* in fandom terms. But that apparently gives us some cred. Go us?

Date: 2007-09-27 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Oh man, I gotta write more Jarod/Griff! I'm so upset that we're getting a new actor for Jarod in the sequal. But oh well.

*giggles* Oh, we should get that girl to tell my mom that I'm a grown-up! (My mom once told me that I didn't seem to be any older than 18. I couldn't really argue the point, because I was watching Boy Meets World and eating nachos.I was 32 at the time.)

Fandom keeps us young!

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Date: 2007-09-27 01:53 pm (UTC)
turlough: large orange flowers in lush green grass (patrick stump's got a lovely mouth)
From: [personal profile] turlough
I don't think you were in popslash at the same time, she's fairly new to the fandom. I think she got into it a year ago or so, no more. She writes fun fic and usually posts fairly interesting stuff but I don't know what's up with her lately or why she seems to have developed this intense grudge against bandom. I hope she'll get over it, I dislike drama on my flist. I want squee and happiness and people enjoying their fandoms, whatever they might be!

Date: 2007-09-27 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrismm.livejournal.com
*nods* I was going to say, I think she's new to fandom, so she wasn't around for the early, dramatic days of popslash. I doubt she knows that what she's doing now is more than a little ironic (even the stuff about age issues, given how much Europe-era Chris/Justin N-slash is out there). *sigh*

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Date: 2007-09-27 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassyinkpen.livejournal.com
I will never understand the concept of getting pissed off or angry about what other people choose to enjoy. And? What a drama whore - if you don't want to see bandom stuff because it makes you angry (again - Huh?) then scroll past it or filter it out quietly. Making a big ass poll is just hair-flipping, drama-whoring "LOOK AT ME!" bullshit.

Date: 2007-09-27 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
She's been trying to start trouble for a couple of months now.

See, I like it when people on my friends list have diverse fandoms. There are a few people I know who are into sports fandoms. I will never be into sports fandoms, because I don't watch sports and I don't find giant sweaty men sexy. But I have a few friends who adore the challenge of slashing these big hetero looking hunks of man, and more power to 'em.

Date: 2007-09-27 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wizzardess.livejournal.com
I'm actually guilty of filtering a friend because she got out of HP completely and into nothing but SPN. Which, personally, I can't stand SPN. And every single post of hers was SPN related. And she posted about fifteen times a day, so I could never get through my flist without seeing tons of her posts about Jenson and the other one.

But, personally, I don't think you post too much about your fandom stuffs. I've read a little bit of it, even though I'm not into MCR or FOB that much. It's not my cup of tea, but I gave it a chance. I just don't read the posts that are about that (mostly fiction or something) :) No reason to filter you though :D

I lurve you too much to filter you out haha

Date: 2007-09-27 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
I don't think I've ever filtered anyone for fandom reasons. And yeah, I consider fandom just one thing to post about. I put my fic in a seperate lj so people who could care less can easily skip it. I try to be considerate about it.

It's a shame I never wrote in HP, isn't it? It just seemed like that fandom didn't need me, it already had plenty of people.

I love you too, baby! *hugs*

Date: 2007-09-27 03:14 pm (UTC)
ext_1650: (Chris yellow (sinbrat))
From: [identity profile] turps33.livejournal.com
Personally I enjoy seeing people having fun with their fandoms, whatever those are. I paddle around the edges of bandslash, and while I'm very happy on the pop side, your fandom seems like a fun place.

Date: 2007-09-27 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
There's a lot of fun to be had. Nearly every day there's a picture or a video or Pete Wentz saying something bizarre.

Plus we have so many bands to play with-about ten! I've always said that bandom people start off slow, into one band, then they notice all these other guys milling around, get interested in that...and then you've got a ton of bands to keep up with.

Date: 2007-09-27 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roxx.livejournal.com
"please be truthful, and try not to be offended. I don't want to defriend all of you just because you're in a new fandom that I don't like" - Hmm. Not sure I like her way of going about things. :\ If someone on my flist "squees" over something that doesn't tickle my own buttons I prefer to either let it go, comment on a different aspect of their post, or say something like "I never saw the appeal of him/them/it but I'm really happy for you that you found that fic/cd/dvd/clip/etc." Because well, I do want my friends to be happy!

Admittedly there've been a few occasions where I've wished people would give it a rest, because IMO whatever the thing is is NOT that exciting, but I don't defriend someone over ONE new fandom that I don't share. If I did I'd have lost a good third of my flist when "Lost" started. LoL

Date: 2007-09-27 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Hee! I was into Lost for exactly one season, they got out of it and have never tried to get back in.

I know, how hard is it to just be happy for someone? But like I said in another comment, band fandom has so much going on (ten different bands at any given time) that one could easily post about nothing else.

Date: 2007-09-27 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whisperingtome.livejournal.com
Interesting! I haven't really had this problem (if you can call it a "problem") because I only got my LJ when I got into MCR, and everyone on my flist is currently an MCR fan or has been one in the past.

I know I've been squeeing over World Of Warcraft lately, and I guess that's made a lot of people not comment on my posts. However, it's my journal and I tend to write about the things that interest me. If anyone doesn't want to read it, they can just quietly de-friend me. :)

I quite enjoy reading other people's posts about their other fandoms or interests because it broadens my horizons a bit.

Date: 2007-09-27 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com
Yeah, I love different fandoms! One of the first people I ever friend on lj (over six years ago!) was into Starsky and Hutch at that time, which I thought was very interesting. That's an old fandom right there. There's fandoms I've never been in that I have a lot of respect for because they generated so much fic and good feelings (The Sentinal, for instance).

I am not a video game person, but I have nothing against World of Warcraft. It's cool, just don't know much about it.

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